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Gegen die Heiden (BKV)

Nr. 41

Und dennoch, die ihr uns verlacht, daß wir einen Menschen, der einen schimpflichen Tod erfuhr, verehren, verherrlicht nicht auch ihr den von den Titanen in Stücke zerrissenen Vater Liber durch Weihung von Tempeln? Habt ihr nicht den Auffinder der Kräuter, den Aeskulap, nach der strafenden Blitztödtung als Hüter und Vorsteher der Gesundheit, des Wohlbefindens und der Unverletztheit ausgesagt? Ladet ihr nicht den großen Herkules zu Dank- und Schlachtopfern, zu Weihrauchdampf ein; von dem ihr doch selbst erzählt, er sey lebendig nach Mühseligkeiten entbrannt, auf der befleckten Brandstätte verbrannt worden? Bezeugt Ihr nicht, durch der Gallen Zusammenschreien, jenen seiner Mannheit beraubten Phrygier Atys in der großen Mutter Tempeln als günstigen Gott, als heiligen Gott? Versichert ihr nicht, der von der Senatoren Hände hundertfältig zerfleischte Vater Romulus selbst sey Quirinus-Mars; ehrt Ihr ihn nicht durch Priester und Kissenbereitung; betet ihr ihn nicht in geräumigen Tempeln an und schwört überdieß Alles, er sey gen Himmel aufgefahren? Entweder muß man auch euch verlachen, daß ihr Menschen, durch die schwersten Qualen getödtet, für Götter haltet und verehret; oder ist der Grund, warum ihr gerecht zu thun meint, ein sicherer, so erlaubt auch uns zu wissen, aus welchem Grunde wir dasselbe thun.

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The Seven Books of Arnobius Against the Heathen

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And yet, O ye who laugh because we worship one who died an ignominious death, do not ye too, by consecrating shrines to him, honour father Liber, who was torn limb from limb by the Titans? Have you not, after his punishment and his death by lightning, named

AEsculapius, the discoverer of medicines, as the guardian and protector of health, of strength, and of safety? Do you not invoke the great Hercules himself by offerings, by victims, and by kindled frankincense, whom you yourselves allege to have been burned alive after his punishment, 1 and to have been consumed on the fatal pyres? Do you not, with the unanimous approbation of the Gauls, invoke as a propitious 2 and as a holy god, in the temples of the Great Mother, 3 that Phrygian Atys 4 who was mangled and deprived of his virility? Father Romulus himself, who was torn in pieces by the hands of a hundred senators, do you not call Quirinus Martius, and do you not honour him with priests and with gorgeous couches, 5 and do you not worship him in most spacious temples; and in addition to all this, do you not affirm that he has ascended into heaven? Either, therefore, you too are to be laughed at, who regard as gods men slain by the most cruel tortures; or if there is a sure ground for your thinking that you should do so, allow us too to feel assured for what causes and on what grounds we do this.


  1. The words post poenas in the text are regarded as spurious by Orelli, who supposes them to have crept in from the preceding sentence: but they may be defended as sufficiently expressing the agonies which Hercules suffered through the fatal shirt of Nessus. ↩

  2. The words deum propitium are indeed found in the ms., but according to Rigaltius are not in the same handwriting as the rest of the work. ↩

  3. Cybele whose worship was conjoined with that of Atys. ↩

  4. So Orelli, but the ms. Attis. ↩

  5. This refers to the practice of placing the images of the gods on pillows at feasts. In the temples there were pulvinaria, or couches, specially for the purpose. ↩

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Gegen die Heiden (BKV)
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